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Sireli hayrenakitsner;

We are a group of IraqiArmenians refugees in Armenia,we did escaped from the bad situation in Iraq,seeking a stable life in our homeland..Armenia.
We did got the situation of (zshamanakavor abestampi qarkavijak), but no more..no job,no health insuranceВ…etc. in one word they said to us this is your homeland go and live in it.
We are young age group,of different especialities, some of us found jobs with monthly fees of 100$,some 80 $,which is not enough to continue a normal life and most of us are jobless,So we decided to do something to get money in order to stay in Armenia. We are ready to send things that are available only in Armenia by post ,to those who dont have time to travel to Armenia,things like:

1/Souvenirs: medals,Armenias & Artsakhs flags,etc..etc. .
2/Khack-kars of different sizes.
3/Armenian books,magazines.
4/Cloths,T-shirts with Armenian printings.
5/Wine,vodkas, Armenian brandy.
6/Other thing by your request.

For the khachkars (as an example),group of our team are ready to go to Vernisag market and take photos of different khachkars and send it by email to you (with its price),if agreement occurs we will send it to you ,and get profit of just 10$,this will assist us so much,we will guarantee that this materials will arrive to you by giving an address and contact name at your city(per say L.A.). We are not asking for donation,we are Armenians and decided to stay here in our homeland.. Armenia,so help us by encouraging our small business.


Thanks for reading our email
IraqiArmenians refugees team
Yerevan
Armenia 
Posted by: "antranik baltaian" armenianrefugees @ yahoo.com  
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[User Picture]From: [info]markgrigorian
2007-10-05 01:33 pm none (UTC)

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I do not want to sound cynical, but I would urge this group to think about something more creative. Sice they are (as they say) young specialists, they should be able to offer more serious stuff than simle buying-and-sellig operations.
From: [info]dildoyan
2007-10-05 07:03 pm none (UTC)

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like what? teaching armenian army how to make IED's?
just kidding...
[User Picture]From: [info]markgrigorian
2007-10-05 10:43 pm none (UTC)

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I don't know their specialisation. But I would think about utilizing their knowledge, which would be much better (and income-generating) than the internet variant of buy-and-sell.
From: (Anonymous)
2008-01-05 09:30 am none (UTC)

iraqiarmenians refugees

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Dear sir..thank you for your comment
my name is Raffi Baltaian..i am a surgeon..i am in yerevan since onr year now with refugee status,but i did recieved nothing from Armenian goverment,just the right to stay in my homeland!!!without paying fees for my out of visa date...
i search for a job as a surgeon...the ARF assisted me to get my liecence to work as a surgeon,,(after 8 months of my arrival)then they said to me sorry we cant go further than this..go and find a job.wherever i go in yerevan they asking me a 5000 $ to accept me in thiere hospitals,if i have such money i will immigrate to sweeden where they will give me money and home.............welllllll i am tiered from talking

thank you any way

Raffi
yerevan
[User Picture]From: [info]markgrigorian
2008-01-05 11:54 am none (UTC)

Re: iraqiarmenians refugees

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Dear Raffi,

I am a journalist. I came to Britain to live in exile, after I survived an assasination attmpt. I did not go to any political party to help me find a job. I am paying taxes here, and I am not asking anyone to send me money, as well as I am not selling goods on the Internet.

If you want to work -- go and work. Go to the villages, go to Karabakh, do your job, and you'll be rewarded.
From: (Anonymous)
2008-01-11 04:54 pm none (UTC)

Re: iraqiarmenians refugees

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Dear Mr.markgrigorian

nice to hear from you,in medicine there is a situation named fight or flight responce of our body,so if you are a jornalist why did chosed the exile??besides if you know the ARF Dashnaktsutiun you should also know that the only supporter for diasporian Armenians was ,as it now the Dashnaktsutiun.
if you are in exile so that the british govenment paying for you..isnt true??so what taxes you are paying?
thank you for your encouragement,,,i am depending on my self now.but your question was about the other iraqiarmenians speciality.

going to villages haa???the salories there is 35 000 Dram(100 $)!!!so that doctors are taking money from poor people(makharish)>>>>please when you talk ...say something benifitial.
Did the group asked you for money.??i checked the email, nobody asked for donation,but you did by begging the british government..didnt you?

good luck..be carefule from snipers(LOL)
o.k. take it easy no hurt feelings
hachukhutiun

Raffi
Yerevan
[User Picture]From: [info]ahousekeeper
2007-10-05 05:15 pm none (UTC)

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В кои веков соглашусь с Марком Григоряном.

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1. Что значит "seeking a stable life in our homeland... Armenia."? Здесь тоже не очень стабильно, в любой момент может возобновиться война с Азербайджаном или же, скажем, Штаты могут напасть на Иран, что дестабилизирует ситуацию во всем регионе.

2. В целом выбранный тон очень неверен. No job,no health insurance — можно подумать все остальные в Армении обеспечены работой, а уж медицинских страховок так вообще у каждого гражданина Армении по десять штук.

3. Что они РЕАЛЬНО умеют/могут/хотят делать? Что они знают?

В общем, звучит как "Մենք, Կորեայի որբերս..."
[User Picture]From: [info]ahousekeeper
2007-10-05 05:23 pm none (UTC)

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P.S. Онник Крикорян или кто-то из экспатов к этому случайно руку не приложил?
[User Picture]From: [info]moonleight
2007-10-05 06:01 pm none (UTC)

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Это моя знакомая отправила в армениа-диспуте, спрошу откуда у нее.
[User Picture]From: [info]vordan_karmir
2007-10-08 01:17 am none (UTC)

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zhogh jan,
eto ya postnula v armenia dispute, pered etim poluchila iz TheArmenianGroup yahoogroups, v kotorii vxodiat v osnovnom armiane US and Canada..
[User Picture]From: [info]vordan_karmir
2007-10-08 01:30 am none (UTC)

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rebiat,

nax, shat chereschur kritikal eq verabervum es namakin. mardik arajarkum en en inch karan anen es ropeis.

erkrordy, shat spiurqahayerin, i zarmans dzez/mez, en inch iraqahay et jahelneri xumby arajarkum a lav el hetaqrqrum a..

errordy, hayastanum irants mnalu tsankutiuny kartsum em shat voxjuneli a..

yev verjapes, inch verabervum a stable life-in, ete tents mtatseinq vontsvor duq eq mtatsum ahousekeeper jan, es ashxarhum erevi shat qich tex kgtnvi, ur 'stable life' ka..
[User Picture]From: [info]ahousekeeper
2007-10-08 04:11 pm none (UTC)

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Նամակի տոնայնությունը դուրս չեկավ։ Չգիտեմ, մի գուցե եւ չափազանցնում եմ։

> hayastanum irants mnalu tsankutiuny kartsum
> em shat voxjuneli a..
Այո, սակայն եթե Հայաստանից շատ մեծ սպասումներ ուներ, լավ է հիմա այդ սպասումներից հրաժարվեն, թե չէ հետո հիասթափվելու են, դառնացած սրտով գնան։

> es ashxarhum erevi shat qich tex kgtnvi, ur
> 'stable life' ka..
Չեմ համաձայնվի։ Մենք 19 տարի է պատերազմական վիճակում ենք գտնվում, եւ մեր շուրջբոլորը էլի պատերազմ է, կամ պատերազմի նախապատրաստություն։ Ի դեպ, Իրաքը Հայաստանից ընդամենը մի 300 կմ է հեռու։ Ավտոմեքենայով 5 ժամվա ճանապարհ։
From: [info]dildoyan
2007-10-05 06:48 pm none (UTC)

vernisage takaway :)

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can i order 10 backgammon boards and two paintings of naked women with swords (with ararat in the background) and something made of obsidian, anything really :)
[User Picture]From: [info]Ab [verisignlabs.com]
2007-10-05 06:55 pm none (UTC)

I think I can help you

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Guys you can sell all that staff at ebay.
Contact me at albert@poghosyan.org and I will help you to set up your own shop at www.ebay.com.
It's easy and very fast.

Good lucck with e-marketing :)
Albert

P.S. Kstasti Bekaisa, u tebia interesni blog :) Mne nravits'a.
From: (Anonymous)
2008-10-24 07:16 pm none (UTC)

Re: I think I can help you

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Guys, I do really anderstand the situation you faced, but don't think there is no way out. It is very difficult for an RA young citizen (not a refugee)to find a job: everywhere experience is requiered and of course no student or a person who just graduated from the institute can have any experience. This is the sad reality of Armenian labour-market. But ... there are organizatons who cooperate with agencies specialized at finding jobs for Asylum Seekers, Refugees and etc. F.I. Armenian Red Cross Society in Yerevan cooperates with one of such agencies (but ARCS works with ASs), and for refugees I would advice to apply to Mission Armenia Organization, these both organizations work jointly with UNHCR. You can just try...)))